{"id":41,"date":"2013-06-06T00:37:00","date_gmt":"2013-06-06T00:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/?p=41"},"modified":"2013-06-06T00:37:00","modified_gmt":"2013-06-06T00:37:00","slug":"contestants-row-position-is-everything-games-of-the-price-is-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/?p=41","title":{"rendered":"Contestants&#8217; Row: Position is Everything (Games of The Price is Right)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Time for some more TPIR.&nbsp; Today, we&#8217;re going to talk about Contestants&#8217; Row again.&nbsp; If you missed the first post on Contestants&#8217; Row you might start <a href=\"http:\/\/theskepticalstatistician.blogspot.com\/2012\/12\/means-medians-modes-come-on-down.html\">here<\/a>, though unlike some posts this one is fairly standalone.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been coding more episodes, and one thing that has started to stand out is the proportion of time that the contestant who has the last bid on Contestants&#8217; Row wins.&nbsp; It is not surprising that they would win the bidding most frequently, though it seems that they win <i>a lot<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>From a simple betting standpoint they should have the odds in their favor for two reasons.&nbsp; First, they get to choose a bid mapping to a range of numbers with full knowledge of the other contestants&#8217; bids.&nbsp; Second, no other contestant gets to bid after them, and thus no other contestant has the potential of cutting out a part of that range of numbers.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, if there are bids of 600 and 900 registered, and a contestant bids 601, they now have the range of numbers from 601-899 covered.&nbsp; If it is the third contestant bidding 601 there is still another contestant who could cut that &#8211; even all the way down to just one number (by bidding 602 and stealing the numbers from 602-899).&nbsp; If it is the fourth contestant bidding, that range of numbers (601-899) is perfectly safe. <\/p>\n<p>A simple frequency count on the winner of the Contestants&#8217; Row bids for the episodes I&#8217;ve watched reveals that my suspicion is quite correct &#8211; the fourth contestant does win a lot.&nbsp; Like, <i>a lot<\/i>. <\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-wnuzd1JpOB4\/Ubz7Eg2ZtGI\/AAAAAAAAC-A\/EMNun3PfRs4\/s1600\/chart_1.png\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-wnuzd1JpOB4\/Ubz7Eg2ZtGI\/AAAAAAAAC-A\/EMNun3PfRs4\/s1600\/chart_1.png\" height=\"334\" width=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>If we break it down to simple odds, the fourth spot on Contestants&#8217; Row has nearly twice as great a chance of winning as the next best spot (39.3% for fourth spot, 21.7% for first spot, 21.4% for second spot, and 17.5% for third spot).<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s an interesting point that the third position is actually the weakest &#8211; they should have some advantage from knowing what the first two bids have been and only differ from the fourth bidder in that they have someone who goes after them.&nbsp; This may mean that the knowledge of prior bids is simply a much smaller effect than lacking someone going after you. <\/p>\n<p>I have noticed in casual watching that the first contestant also seems to win frequently.&nbsp; Anecdotally it would appear that they often win by getting exceptionally close to the eventual price, blocking out the other contestants who bid after them.&nbsp; This would lead to the question: do winners in different positions on Contestants&#8217; Row need to get closer to the price in order to win. <\/p>\n<p>We can take a look at this by looking at the winning bids of each position, when they win.&nbsp; Particularly, we can look at the error in the winning bids by position.&nbsp; Because we&#8217;re only looking at wins the bias is unidirectional &#8211; a winner can&#8217;t have bid <i>over<\/i> the price of the item, only below or exact.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-GSJb6A_iZI8\/Ub0BOUBTWNI\/AAAAAAAAC-Q\/uYSoAAFJ0yI\/s1600\/chart_6.png\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-GSJb6A_iZI8\/Ub0BOUBTWNI\/AAAAAAAAC-Q\/uYSoAAFJ0yI\/s1600\/chart_6.png\" height=\"454\" width=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Interestingly, the first position does not has the highest rate of perfect bids (as I might have guessed) &#8211; the second position does.&nbsp; The first position does, however, have the highest proportion of winning bids within a range of $100 &#8211; around 45% of winning bids (including those perfect bids and those from $1-100).&nbsp; In fact, we can rearrange this chart to better illustrate this point.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-8drkuJUWXZo\/Ub0EtbaR1MI\/AAAAAAAAC-g\/DNkn4JpBNZE\/s1600\/chart_7.png\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-8drkuJUWXZo\/Ub0EtbaR1MI\/AAAAAAAAC-g\/DNkn4JpBNZE\/s1600\/chart_7.png\" height=\"454\" width=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>This shows the cumulative percent of contestants in each position who have won with any given bid or lower. It is clear that when the first position wins on Contestants&#8217; Row they&#8217;re actually doing it by bidding fairly well.&nbsp; The later bidders may suffer from trying to move away from this already established (but good) bid, though that&#8217;s hard to identify.<\/p>\n<p>It is also clear that winning from the fourth spot takes the least degree of precision &#8211; winning bids from the fourth position are on average off by more than any other position.&nbsp; This is very likely due to the ability to bid either $1 (securing the range of all numbers below the lowest bid) or $1 above the highest bid (securing the range of numbers higher than the highest bid).&nbsp; Both these bids have the potential to win while being off by a large margin.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Because the position moves around based on who wins, a fourth position win actually makes the prior third position the new fourth position.&nbsp; This is some solace to contestants trapped in the seemingly weakest third position, as long as there are a number of bids left.&nbsp; A fourth position contestant who loses their bid to the first bidder gets to retain their fourth position &#8211; a very fortunate turn of events for them, again given that there are some bids left. <\/p>\n<p>Overall, it would appear that starting in fourth position is the best way to go, though it&#8217;s also sort of out of your hands.&nbsp; While this information might not be practically applicable in the moment, it might make you feel a little better if you get trapped in third position and go home empty handed. <\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><object class codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\" data-thumbnail-src=\"https:\/\/ytimg.googleusercontent.com\/vi\/1ytCEuuW2_A\/0.jpg\" height=\"266\" width=\"320\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"https:\/\/youtube.googleapis.com\/v\/1ytCEuuW2_A&#038;source=uds\" \/><param name=\"bgcolor\" value=\"#FFFFFF\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"266\"  src=\"https:\/\/youtube.googleapis.com\/v\/1ytCEuuW2_A&#038;source=uds\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowfullscreen=\"true\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Time for some more TPIR.&nbsp; Today, we&#8217;re going to talk about Contestants&#8217; Row again.&nbsp; If you missed the first post on Contestants&#8217; Row you might start here, though unlike some posts this one is fairly standalone. I&#8217;ve been coding more episodes, and one thing that has started to stand out is the proportion of time &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/?p=41\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Contestants&#8217; Row: Position is Everything (Games of The Price is Right)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=41"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=41"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=41"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulgcurran.com\/skepticalstats\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=41"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}